00:09:45 Maria de Lourdes Silva: Good morning and thank you for the interesting themes covered 00:10:13 Shaun Scott: Congratulations Sope... 00:10:42 Angelo Syce: Congratulation Sope... 00:11:41 Andy DUROSIER: Hi, I'm an AI assistant helping Andy Durosier take notes for this meeting. Follow along the transcript here: https://otter.ai/u/Pl9UgVHZhgui3rNMe0RkBf9dVeE?utm_source=va_chat_link_1 You can see screenshots and add highlights and comments. After the meeting, you'll get a summary and action items. If you'd like to stop this recording, you can go to the link above and click the Stop button. If you'd like to stop the recordings for all Otter Notetakers in this meeting, you can type "otter stop" in Zoom chat. 00:13:00 Chukwuma Chinaka: Good day everyone. Thanks Prof. Yukins for your drive and initiatives, so delighted Prof. Sope Williams is here, she has done good work in this discipline. 00:18:00 Christopher Yukins / GW Law: As noted, research resources are at the program page at publicprocurementinternational.com. Anti-corruption resources (many by Professor Williams) and South African resources (cited by her wonderful colleague at Stellenbosch University, Professor Geo Quinot) have been posted there. 00:18:22 Ana Lucia Jaramillo Villacis: Reacted to "Good day everyone. Thanks Prof. Yukins for your drive and initiatives, so delighted Prof. Sope Williams is here, she has done good work in this discipline." with πŸ‘ 00:18:44 Belden Mangar: Good morning everyone 00:19:23 Kombe Mulenga: Good morning 00:20:20 Madani Doumbia: Good Morning each 1 everyone! 00:20:32 Christopher Yukins / GW Law: The Foreign Corrupt Practices Act Guide -- an implementation guide produced by the US Department of Justice and the Securities & Exchange Commission -- is available on the program page, www.publicprocurementinternational.com. 00:21:34 Tomislav Maksimovski: Hello, thank you for this oportunity, I like to offer my assistance to every participant .In 2019 a method of gender equity as creteria for wining the tender was published and performed. Its a simple example of gain multiple goals achivements as side benefits from the public procurment. On my linkedin I have beter explanation on this metter. Conected with today subject and having in mind the Open Finance System that was implemented 2020 its a guidence for long term reducing of corruption. Good work, from Skopje, Macedonia.tomislavmaksimovski/in/tomislav-maksimovski-48476165 00:29:32 Christopher Yukins / GW Law: The "leaked" EU procurement regulation -- the likely next step in EU law -- is on the program page, publicprocurementinternational.com. The anti-corruption elements, including debarment and transparency, are quite interesting. 00:30:02 Ana Lucia Jaramillo Villacis: Reacted to "The "leaked" EU procurement regulation -- the likely next step in EU law -- is on the program page, publicprocurementinternational.com. The anti-corruption elements, including debarment and transparency, are quite interesting." with πŸ‘ 00:32:21 Shaun Scott: Question for Prof Williams: As a result of the FCPA dynamics have we seen a change in positioning on anti-corruption by other international bodies such as different UN bodies, Transparency International, World Bank, ADB, AfDB etc 00:34:39 Christopher Yukins / GW Law: Good question, but the enforcement mechanisms in the EU are in the very early stages. 00:34:58 Shaun Scott: Reacted to "Good question, but the enforcement mechanisms in the EU are in the very early stages." with πŸ‘πŸΌ 00:38:02 Sope Williams: Reacted to "Congratulations Sope..." with πŸ‘ 00:38:19 Sope Williams: Reacted to "Congratulation Sope..." with πŸ‘ 00:38:29 Sope Williams: Reacted to "Good day everyone. Thanks Prof. Yukins for your drive and initiatives, so delighted Prof. Sope Williams is here, she has done good work in this discipline." with πŸ‘ 00:38:53 Sope Williams: Reacted to "Hello, thank you for this oportunity, I like to offer my assistance to every participant .In 2019 a method of gender equity as creteria for wining the tender was published and performed. Its a simple example of gain multiple goals achivements as side benefits from the public procurment. On my linkedin I have beter explanation on this metter. Conected with today subject and having in mind the Open Finance System that was implemented 2020 its a guidence for long term reducing of corruption. Good work, from Skopje, Macedonia.tomislavmaksimovski/in/tomislav-maksimovski-48476165" with πŸ‘ 00:39:16 Christopher Yukins / GW Law: Posted on the program page, publicprocurementinternational.com, is an OECD study from 2023 which emphasized that public procurement management -- including anti-corruption -- is, at its core, a question of risk management. 00:39:42 Shaun Scott: Reacted to "Posted on the program page, publicprocurementinternational.com, is an OECD study from 2023 which emphasized that public procurement management -- including anti-corruption -- is, at its core, a question of risk management." with πŸ‘πŸΌ 00:41:16 Sope Williams: Replying to "Question for Prof Wi..." World Bank is continuing its enforcement of corruption in funded projects. Transparency International is continuing its work. One challenge is that many international organisations relied on US funding and this has reduced/stopped, so they have had to pivot as well based on financial constraints. 00:43:45 Christopher Yukins / GW Law: Professor Williams is exactly right. Technology has made the pivot easier -- capacity-building programs such as this one, for example, are essentially free to stage. They depend on (and demonstrate) a common sense of commitment. 00:46:35 Jellie Molino: Replying to "Good question, but the enforcement mechanisms in the EU are in the very early stages." Agree, good question --- In the Philippines, I have never seen a situation quite like the present one, where the government is actively using law enforcement agencies, such as the National Bureau of Investigation, to pursue corruption cases. The concern, however, is that these enforcement efforts appear to be directed primarily against members of the opposition. 00:47:58 Maria de Lourdes Silva: Good suggestion and thank you Professor for raising this questionπŸ‘ŒπŸ½ 00:48:44 Giuseppe TEMPESTA: Very interesting suggestions. Thanks to All and Prof Yukins on top 00:50:24 Christopher Yukins / GW Law: For literature (by Professor Williams and others) on theoretical explanations for these types of failures, please see the resources on publicprocurementinternational.com. 00:50:42 Paulo Magina: Reacted to "Posted on the program page, publicprocurementinternational.com, is an OECD study from 2023 which emphasized that public procurement management -- including anti-corruption -- is, at its core, a question of risk management." with πŸ‘ 00:51:23 Paulo Magina: The EU Public Procurement Data Space for which the OECD is helping EU member states connecting to, is a great example of improved visibility over procurement information, above and below the EU thresholds 00:51:41 Steve Guppy: Replying to "Good question, but the enforcement mechanisms in the EU are in the very early stages." @jellie - unfortunately, in my experience, it is common to see 'enforcement' used as a political weapon. I guess the issue becomes whether even a flawed/biased enforcement proess is better than no enforcement at all 00:52:39 Christopher Yukins / GW Law: In the US government, whistleblowers share in the government's recovery under the False Claims Act -- which can be in the millions of dollars. A very effective anti-fraud tool. 00:53:08 Sope Williams: Reacted to "The EU Public Procurement Data Space for which the OECD is helping EU member states connecting to, is a great example of improved visibility over procurement information, above and below the EU thresholds" with πŸ‘ 00:53:52 Sope Williams: Replying to "Good question, but t..." This enforcement against opposition is also common in Nigeria. 00:53:54 Jellie Molino: Replying to "Good question, but the enforcement mechanisms in the EU are in the very early stages." @steve - I have some issues on selective enforcement resulting to selective justice πŸ™‚ 00:54:23 Soala Warmate: Reacted to "This enforcement against opposition is also common in Nigeria." with πŸ‘ 00:56:12 Tomohiko Kobayashi: Reacted to "Professor Williams is exactly right. Technology has made the pivot easier -- capacity-building programs such as this one, for example, are essentially free to stage. They depend on (and demonstrate) a common sense of commitment." with πŸ‘ 00:57:30 Christopher Yukins / GW Law: Prabhat's point -- that good procurement competition and good anti-corruption work in sync -- has been a central part of the scholarship at the International Anti-Corruption Academy (Austria). 00:57:47 Dom T. G. Ala: Reacted to "Prabhat's point -- that good procurement competition and good anti-corruption work in sync -- has been a central part of the scholarship at the International Anti-Corruption Academy (Austria)." with ❀️ 00:58:34 Tomohiko Kobayashi: Reacted to "Prabhat's point -- that good procurement competition and good anti-corruption work in sync -- has been a central part of the scholarship at the International Anti-Corruption Academy (Austria)." with πŸ‘ 00:58:58 Angelo Syce: Were there any professionally registered individuals involved in these scenarios, and was the corrupt act reported to the relevant professional body? 00:58:58 Shirin Ahlhauser: Thank you for all of these thoughtful insights in these presentations. Regarding the point about competition, what does competition look like in this case, or how is it being defined? A larger pool of contractors? Or limited high-class pools, which evidence has shown to increase competition? 00:59:37 Steve Guppy: Replying to "Good question, but the enforcement mechanisms in the EU are in the very early stages." @Jellie - I totally agree with you, and, in my view, selective justice is another form of unsavoury behaviour that shouldn't exist in the ideal world, but we see it everywhere, even in countries that claim to be the world's 'moral police force', so I guess it's a series of unwanted trade-offs that we need to make. 01:01:47 Andy DUROSIER: Takeaways from the meeting πŸ‘‰πŸ’¬ [ ] Publier la citation et le matΓ©riel de rΓ©fΓ©rence sur la page du programme. (Speaker unknown) See full summary - https://otter.ai/u/Pl9UgVHZhgui3rNMe0RkBf9dVeE?utm_source=va_chat&utm_content=wrapup_v4&tab=chat&message=ca44666d-46bd-4bd0-8bcd-7557ff4a1412 01:04:59 Shaun Scott: A few years ago I looked into New Zealand's public procurement system when they were the "least corrupt" country as per Transparency International's CPI. I found NZ's approach and understanding of Probity be a strength. In South Africa, Probity is now-a-days understood (by the audit community) purely as a compliance concept. Probity should be understood as a broader "evidence of transparency" concept. 01:05:11 Dom T. G. Ala: Baseline for procurement corruption on the (AI) agentic web: https://track.unodc.org/uploads/documents/UNCAC/COSP/session11/concepts/Guidelines_on_the_adoption_and_use_of_tech_to_combat_corruption_in_public_procurement.pdf 01:05:44 Rakesh Kumar: Thanks, Prabhat, for an excellent presentation. I completely agree with your point that it is extremely difficult to eliminate fraud and corruption entirely. Instead, we should focus on designing systems and processes that naturally discourage and reduce opportunities for fraud and corruption. I particularly liked your statement that "Increasing competition is the strongest anti-corruption tool." I couldn't agree more. 01:05:50 Belden Mangar: Thank you 01:05:57 Ana Lucia Jaramillo Villacis: Thank you! 01:06:12 Nurilign Mulugeta Gurmessa: Thank you very much! 01:06:49 Tomohiko Kobayashi: Reacted to "Thanks, Prabhat, for an excellent presentation. I completely agree with your point that it is extremely difficult to eliminate fraud and corruption entirely. Instead, we should focus on designing systems and processes that naturally discourage and reduce opportunities for fraud and corruption. I particularly liked your statement that "Increasing competition is the strongest anti-corruption tool." I couldn't agree more." with πŸ‘ 01:06:59 Melissa Ramkumarsingh: Very interesting presentation, thank you! 01:07:04 Ewa KostrzyΕ„ska: Thank you so much! practical information:) 01:07:23 Dominic Dagbanja: very exciting and educative presentation. 01:07:36 Jellie Molino: Good point -- practical KPI on monitoring competition - increase the participation of suppliers --- In 2023, I analyzed the barriers of UK suppliers in ASEAN public procurement market, a project funded by UNDP FairBiz... Initial stakeholders perception, legal barriers.. while it is true, I recommended entering the market through international procurement, e.g. UNGM --- Following completion of the project, UK supplier participation in procurement opportunities advertised through the UN Global Marketplace increased substantially, i.e., from 2.2% in 2022 (equivalent to 493.5 M USD out of 22.1B USD total procurement contracts awarded by UN agencies in 2022) to 26.3% in 2024 (equivalent to 5.8 billion USD contract out of the 22.2 billion contracts for 2024), reflecting the practical value of this approach. 01:08:11 Tomohiko Kobayashi: Reacted to "In the US government, whistleblowers share in the government's recovery under the False Claims Act -- which can be in the millions of dollars. A very effective anti-fraud tool." with πŸ‘ 01:08:28 Sandeep Verma: Thanks, Prof. Yukins. Pleasure listening to you, as always. Regards. 01:08:33 Charles Kalinzi: Prof. This is great information. Would you be willing for more collaboration on these evidences and we compare them with other African countries, I have a series of practical examples and we can discuss this further, @Prabhat Garg 01:08:34 Shaun Scott: Thank you sincerely, Prabhat, Sope, Chris and Benedetta for today's session. 01:08:38 David Gragan: Thanks very much, Chris and all. 01:09:32 Lina Zidan: Thank you so much!! 01:10:05 Marcos Ozorio de Almeida: Thanks for the great event, Chris and all the panelists 01:10:10 Belden Mangar: Thanks 01:10:11 Dom T. G. Ala: Thanks so much, everyone. Have a good one 01:10:13 Yohannes Teclu: Thanks 01:10:14 Rita Saiu: Thank you 01:10:16 Rakesh Kumar: Thanks everyone for excellent presentation